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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #40 on: February 01, 2009, 10:37:30 AM »
I dunno, Christianity has been a part of a good few wars :\ why are there 3 pages of this nonsense and its not been moved to the flame arena yet?

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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2009, 11:28:44 AM »
Oh please.  Don't try and make sharing one's faith sound like a crime.

And you're being ridiculous if you think Christians would kill or deport those who won't willingly convert.  And you obviously have no idea what Christianity is.  Christians don't violently force their faith on anyone, because we believe that you can't force anyone to be heartfelt and repent.  It's not a cultural thing or just another religion; Christ is the truth.  I'm not trying to pass on my beliefs so I can die thinking I "earned points for my team".

I think you're thinking of Muslims, who have always spread their religion by the sword - and who only tolerate Judaism and Christianity when Islam controls the government and everyone lives under Shariah law.
you prety much said that our country should be entirely christian.
christianity and christ are as much the truth as the truth anti smoking comercials are.

I have a question for you.   How many american soldiers have died because of Obama's decisions? None as of yet have died from his decisions
And How many have died because of those of Bush.  Thousands, many many thousands
How many american wars have there been?   How many have been based on anything other than the religious biggotry of Catholics or Christians?  Not many, Likely not enough to count on one full hand of fingers.

your idea of sharing ones faith to me sounds more like forcing your narrow minded opinions on others.  another question I ask of you.   Lets say the bible was never released and no one ever heard of the bible and someone made it today, exact same words and all, how many people would buy it and say "yeah this sounds totaly logical, makes perfect sense."?   NONE. none at all, it would be treated the same as hairy potter, a fiction book, which it is 100% fiction.  There is no denying that, and there is no disproving that.  so what makes you honestly believe that christ is the truth?  Blind faith?  thats the only answer realy.  I have as much faith that neo, luke, and hairy exist as I do in jesus.  and the only difference between those is if I believed any of the others besides jesus existed, Id be considered insane and possibly locked in an institution, but jesus, yeah totaly acceptable and sane.  Why is that?  cause its been shoved down the face of the entire planets population for so long that many just accept it as if it were real.  Santa is fake, the tooth fairy is fake, the easter bunny is fake, goblins are fake, zombies are fake, vampires are fake, but god and jesus are real.  makes perfect sense doesnt it?

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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2009, 12:01:43 AM »
So what if he's from Kenya, or China or Japan.

then hes not eligible for presidency in the united states. get over it. Seriously didn't his own grandmother say she saw him born in kenya?
"I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay, and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control."  Obama Feb. 23, 2009.
Yearly Budget Deficit Tops $1 Trillion Dollars- A First  Jul. 2009
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090713/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy_deficit

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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2009, 12:23:29 AM »
It's irrelevant.  If Obama was born in Hawaii he is still not a natural born citizen.

A natural born citizen must be born to two US citizens (on US soil).  And Obama admits his father is Kenyan.

It's a huge dispute what the real definition of a natural-born citizen is, but that's it... and any other law that confers natural-born status upon someone with only one parent being a US citizen is unconstitutional.

(McCain is also not a natural born citizen, because he was born on Panamanian soil.  Just because he was born to 2 US citizens does not meet the soil requirement.)

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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2009, 12:58:15 AM »
So whether the Bible expressly condemns all drinking or not, you're still a moron for drinking.  Have some self-control.

right, and because someone does something that you don't do, that makes them a moron. Thats as ignorant as someone who doesn't play games, calling someone who does play games a moron, because it "does nothing." Well it clearly does do something, it entertains.
"I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay, and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control."  Obama Feb. 23, 2009.
Yearly Budget Deficit Tops $1 Trillion Dollars- A First  Jul. 2009
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090713/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy_deficit

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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2009, 02:02:22 AM »
Playing video games is harmless entertainment.

Drinking actually causes damage to your body.  It's a poison that damages your liver, brain, and probably everything else the blood comes in contact with.  It dehydrates you and slows your reaction time.  When you drink you lose your ability to make rational decisions, and any number of problems could occur.  Without your rationality, you turn into a dangerous animal - capable of driving drunk or hurting/killing other people.

I'm not calling anyone a moron for harmlessly entertaining themselves; I'm calling them morons for purposely engaging in irresponsible behavior knowing full-well the personal and societal consequences/implications of their actions.
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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2009, 02:21:41 AM »
I actually agree with you, but obviously people have a right to make what some people would call irresponsible decisions. I do things that some people would call irresponsible or damaging, I'm sure you do too. I'm also a Christian, but obviously I can't prove it to anyone, anymore than I can disprove the theory of evolution. So from where I'm sitting, I don't see the point in arguing about anything that can't be proven. Even with things you actually can prove, when was the last time you got into an argument with anyone, ending with them coming around to your point of view?

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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2009, 08:18:36 AM »
Playing video games is harmless entertainment.

wrong again my friend, it can be bad for your eyes, and kids have killed themselves over wow, not to mention all the killings supposedly sparked by first person shooters. Its very elitist of you to say what people should and shouldn't do for fun, and if someone sits at home and "damages" there body, this doesn't make them any less of a person.

Get off your high horse, you come off as an asshole and you are going to have a hell of a time keeping friends/relationships being judgmental.
"I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay, and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control."  Obama Feb. 23, 2009.
Yearly Budget Deficit Tops $1 Trillion Dollars- A First  Jul. 2009
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090713/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/us_economy_deficit

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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #48 on: February 03, 2009, 09:07:11 AM »
And this is just a never ending story :)


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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2009, 06:57:06 AM »
Sure, I'm all for gov't that stays out of people's lives.  But I'm not welcoming the eradication of public morals.  The goal is to return America to what once made it so great: Christian people who obey God's will, coupled with a government that does not tax us to death to push the failed ideology of socialism.  If everyone was Christian, we wouldn't need huge detailed legislation to control things.  You wouldn't need to outlaw alcohol, because no one would drink it of their own volition. 
Plenty of Christian people drink alcohol, I don't know where you're getting that from.

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Re: Obama taps Sun's McNealy for open source advice
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2009, 07:02:12 AM »
Yea, and a third of American Christians also think Jesus sinned and the word of God is fallible.