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Title: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: spshortman on June 01, 2013, 06:26:24 AM
sup bruhs, im burnin some saturn games. my two burners dont burn at anything slower than 16x. all the images im burning are working on my saturn, but im wondering if a slower burn would be better for the saturns lens? i was always under the impression that burning everything at slow speeds is the way to go, but does it actually matter for something like saturn games? am i gonna wear out my saturn lens faster or does it even matter? thanks bruhs


p.s. underground gamer is fuckin dead!111
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 01, 2013, 06:30:57 AM
I'm not completely sure with the Saturn, but I know with DC games 16x is the way to go. Is your console chipped, or are you swapping? Because if you're swapping I'd be way more concerned that the drive was going to go out from that.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: spshortman on June 01, 2013, 06:39:10 AM
chipped for days dogg!1111 ive been on the hunt for a cd burner for a while that does 2x or something but its not an easy to find unless the drive is like 10 years old and ide or some shit. i keep assuming i should be burning these games ultra slow, i had plans to reburn my entire saturn collection in hopes to make shit easier for my console, but if i find out the speed doesnt matter than fuuuuuck that!1111. i think the saturn lens is an easy find on ebay now so if it turns out my burns are good im gonna play dat shit till it dies!11111

i remember reading something a long time ago that sega cd games had to be burned slow or something, but that might just be bullshit.


R.I.P. underground gamer
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 01, 2013, 08:04:56 AM
Yeah I used to burn Sega CD games at max speed and never had an issue so I doubt that's true. Your Saturn should be fine with 16x.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: spshortman on June 01, 2013, 08:33:46 AM
thanks for the response bro!111111 im curious why do you think burning dreamcast games is better at 16x???


rip underground gamer!~!1111
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 01, 2013, 09:50:47 AM
That's what I read a while back. I don't have any proof that it's true, except that my DC's drive seems to make much less noise at 16x. That and I recalibrated the laser.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Elite Evil on June 07, 2013, 04:25:15 AM
Modern drives and discs are designed to be burnt at higher speeds and burning at 2x will be bad. :)

Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 11, 2013, 05:54:09 PM
So I just bought a Saturn, did you figure out what speed works the best?
Now I have: nes, gamecube, genesis, saturn, dreamcast, ps1, ps2, ps3. Only console I'm missing that I still want is snes, but all the games I need are too expensive and I don't want to buy a flash cart.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Elite Evil on June 12, 2013, 03:03:39 AM
Yeah SNES RPGs in PAL are fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 12, 2013, 11:37:40 AM
US RPG's are pretty high up there as well. Chrono Trigger would be a must have for my collection and I can't find it for under $80, just way more than I want to spend on a single game. If only I could read Japanese I'd be all set, those JAP versions are usually under $10.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Elite Evil on June 13, 2013, 04:06:57 AM
Yeah the only way I can think of doing it cost effectively is buying a flashcart where you can use chips in real carts connected to it and using the jap copies to run the PAL roms.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 14, 2013, 01:03:42 AM
DAMN the price of modchips seem to have gone up! Last time I looked at racketboy they were like $30, now around $70! Looks like I'll be swapping for a while..
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: spshortman on June 14, 2013, 06:49:14 AM
dude you said it yourself your gonna fuck up your saturn that way bro!1111 i too noticed the price skyrocketed but fuck dude, its still worth it imo, especially if underground gamer gets resurrected!!111

i haven't done any more research on the burning speed since underground gamer fuckin died, but i might ask those nerds over at the assemblergames at some point, if i do ill update this thread. thank fuck i already amassed a huge fuggin collection of saturn titles before the fuckin fbi decided to cock block every old school gamer on the planet!1111111
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 14, 2013, 12:03:15 PM
dude you said it yourself your gonna fuck up your saturn that way bro!1111
I know, I just have to bite the bullet when I want to play dragon force because I don't have an extra $70 lying around quite yet. :(
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Elite Evil on June 14, 2013, 05:40:32 PM
I actually had a spare chip I think I paid about 14 for it 7 or 8 years ago will see if I can find it, not sure if it will still work though.

:edit: Found it, a note from past me says that it doesn't work and it is still inside my spare console so sorry about that!
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 14, 2013, 10:15:14 PM
Ah that's too bad. I appreciate the thought though. I wonder why they're so expensive now anyway..
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 15, 2013, 07:15:35 PM
All right, just purchased one from a guy in Germany for the very reasonable price of $20.00.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Earth on June 16, 2013, 07:29:15 AM
So I just bought a Saturn, did you figure out what speed works the best?
Now I have: nes, gamecube, genesis, saturn, dreamcast, ps1, ps2, ps3. Only console I'm missing that I still want is snes, but all the games I need are too expensive and I don't want to buy a flash cart.
Not interested in an N64? Such an amazing console in my opinion, Goldeneye got me hooked.

Speaking of which, I also just ordered this thing called an Everdrive64 for it, it's a cartridge with an SD slot so you can put your ROMs on it and play them on the actual hardware. The best part about it is being able to play leaked games, or even hacked ROMs, which is awesome since the N64 community seems to be booming with a lot of level editors for many games. Can't wait for it to arrive.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 16, 2013, 01:28:39 PM
N64 was never really my cup of tea. I got into it and started collecting for it a couple of years back, got really into paper mario, played through ocarina of time (everybody used to say it was better than FFVII, IMO it's not, still a great game though), bought some decent controllers.
I don't know what it was really, my one big memory playing 64 is playing while I had stomach flu and now for whatever reason I somehow feel sick to my stomach when I think about owning one again. It's weird how that works.  :-\
The one main reason I don't see the point in collecting for the 64 is the lack of RPG's. It's not like I play them exclusively but I'd rather collect games that I can get a lot of play time out of.

Congrats on the everdrive though! You should get yourself a couple of hori mini pad's if you don't already have some! I only had makopad but always wanted a hori.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: spshortman on June 24, 2013, 12:52:36 PM
callmesir whats the deal with the 20 dollar german modchips? did you buy second hand or is someone making them for cheap over there? if its legit ill buy a couple more just to have for the future. also where are you getting your saturn games from now? is it official like underground gamer was or are you getting them from this message board????1!!!!!11one
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 24, 2013, 09:11:47 PM
I just bought one second hand, I don't think their being made or even sold in Germany. I'm getting my games from various sources on the net since a lot of our links don't work anymore, coolrom has some good downloads, emuparadise, and theisozone.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: spshortman on June 26, 2013, 01:35:19 AM
i sent you a pm callmesir, i dont know if it worked cause this forum is kinda buggy for me, but if it did work than SEgA!111
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on June 30, 2013, 05:27:00 PM
Yeah I got it man, thanks. Unfortunately my Saturn disc drive isn't working now so I'm waiting to see if a friend can fix it.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Elite Evil on June 30, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
Might be cheaper to pick up another Saturn. Is a shame as this faffing about will take the shine off it a bit when you do get it working.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on July 01, 2013, 05:17:47 AM
Might be cheaper to pick up another Saturn. Is a shame as this faffing about will take the shine off it a bit when you do get it working.
Not happening. The Saturn cost me $70 and now that it's not working I wish I would have just bought a snes. I'm angry at all disc based retro systems at the moment. >:(
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: spshortman on July 02, 2013, 03:41:06 AM
sorry to hear about the saturn dude, did someone sell you a system on the verge of shit or do you think the disc swapping fucked it up?

if it turns out the lens is the problem than you can find them on ebay for 25 bucks, also youtube has some tutorials on how to replace them. like elite evil said you might be better off buying a different saturn than fixing the one you have, seeing how the lens is 25 and sometimes the issue isn't the lens but the cd deck or whatever. just the saturn nothing else can be found for 40 bucks on ebay, but i bet if you have patience you can bid on one a score a new saturn for even cheaper than that. don't give up on the saturn dude, if you get that mod chip its basically the greatest thing ever!1111


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Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on July 02, 2013, 10:05:55 PM
It was my fault sadly, which makes me all the more upset about it. The modchip I got was a weird Chinese chip that I couldn't find any tuts for online at all. After plugging it in and getting no response whatsoever (we're now assuming it was faulty ribbon cables) I idiotically touched the power connector to the main power in the back of the system, which switched everything off on my surge protector and either fried the disc drive or the ribbon cables. My friend is much more experienced than I am at this sort of thing and she believes once we get some new ribbon cables everything should work. So we're just waiting in the mean time, but yeah it's sort of frustrating and I feel like a dumbass. Soldering and that sort of thing just isn't my game at all. Still not sure if the mod chip even works though, it might not, and a Saturn without a chip is almost totally worthless to me. If we get the system back in working order I'll probably just use the swap trick since at that point the Saturn's already living on borrowed time anyway.

I should add, ruining an old system also makes me feel like shit as there's only so many working Saturns left and who knows how long they have.
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: spshortman on July 03, 2013, 10:40:00 AM
dont beat yourself up too bad dude, we all make hasty mistakes like that. just learn from this time and be better next time. you might be able to fix that saturn and maybe even get that chip going, just take your time.

so the chip is for sure different than the racket boy chip? if you take a pic of the chip and upload it here maybe i can help find a tutorial bruh!11
Title: Re: Does it matter what speed you burn your game image at?
Post by: Call_me_sir on July 05, 2013, 04:19:49 AM
Yeah I wasn't able to find any pictures of the same chip online. Unfortunately I can't take a picture either, as my friend has the system and chip. I did just buy a SNES though in the mean time. :D