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Gaming => Console Chat => Topic started by: willplayer on December 10, 2008, 08:35:29 PM
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Discussion has inspired me to just discuss this ... I mean that's how it works, right?
So I was talking to some friends and they all think MS is stealing off of the other systems. Well yeah they are, but they're making it their own way and usually it turns out better, both software and hardware wise. Nintendo comes up with all these neat new ideas and all the other systems feed off of it.
What do you think? How does the Wii affect the Ps3? How does the Ps3 affect the 360 and Wii? Think and discuss!
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I think they all suck. There needs to be a big price drop on all of them. They're old now. Games cost too much. Controllers cost too much. The Wiimote is a gimmick. The PS3 and 360 have sucky d-pads. The competition is bad for gamers because there's too many exclusives, and no one wants to buy all three consoles. The bargaining for exclusives takes longer than usual, and we don't see the games we desperately want for years. Sega has died.
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I think there isn't enough exclusivity, its boarderline, there isn't much reason to buy either console, with only a few exceptions, all the good games are for both systems.. the PS2/XBOX generation of game consoles was the best because I didn't feel it was a waste to own both consoles, the competition was good, and the games were cheap! This generation will get there, but its kinda silly when almost every new ps3/360 game has a 60 dollar price tag, not all games were created equally you know.
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Competition between game developers is golden. They create better games in the hopes of selling more than the competition.
But competition in the console market isn't good for the consumers. The only upside would be, theoretically, competitively-priced hardware. But that's not the reality of the situation. All the hardware is very expensive for already being years old. I'd rather build a computer. (and don't bring up the blu-ray drive. its massively overpriced, not a miracle of modern technology.)
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the ps3 is a really cheap computer :P given it can install other operating systems
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Being a poor working schmuck I have lots of older consoles including my "new" 2-month old Dreamcast. I really can't afford the newest and latest but the PS3 looks amazing. It's all about enjoyment. I still love my 8-bit Atari 5200 system (and my 7800 too) - been adding to that collection for years and my wife and I (we're old) still love the old classics a lot. My Dreamcast on my 50" HD TV looks wicked... $400 & $500 for a damn NEW console and $50 & $60 for a game is just NUTS. NEO GEO hit in the last of the 80's with a $600 console and $200 games and it never sold hardly at all. People (average) can't afford these expensive TOYS
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I'm with you on the prices ... everything they make now a days is so gosh darn expensive, I just wait a few months and it eventually goes down in price to a more reasonable area ($30 ish). That's the way it should be.
Concerning 360, I think their added accessories are bullshit. The 360 should already have wifi in it, but I had to buy a wifi adapter for some $90 just to get it working. The hard drives are expensive too, I remember all xbox's having a hard drive back in the day ... The controllers are expensive, like $40. The XBLA Marketplace is all money money money and not many games with good quality gameplay, just razzle dazzle and lapdances.
Nintendo and ps3 were good to put wifi in theirs. But as far as software goes, Nintendo keeps putting out games that are just plain stupid, like for lil kids stupid. Ps3 is good but from what I've seen, I don't see much reason, as Paul has said, to get it when eventually in one form or another, they make that game for the other system. Sometimes I question why even bother making all these different systems if they'll all have the same 3rd party games. Maybe that's just the fun in it.
I think we need to somehow create a different fair standard in video gaming. I read somewhere that one day video gaming will be a thing of the past. I sure hope not but since it was just created 20 years ago, and 500 years ago we were pushing little wooden wheels around with sticks for fun, it could happen.
When I'm old and grey and wrinkly I'll still be playing Sonic on my Dreamcast, meanwhile my kid will be outside playing in some crazy ass virtual world with his virtual AI friends ... ;D I dunno.
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Little big planet is like $80. I've got $80 but I'm not going to spend that kind of scratch on one game.
I definitely think games cost way too much this time around, even Wii games with their $50 price tags are somewhat of a splurge.
By the way I have to throw in though....Playstation home drops tomorrow and I've been waiting for a long ass time.
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Little big planet is like $80.
I've not seen it above 60 ::)
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I think that the Wii is way too overpriced. The 360 needs built in wifi and a better hardware design. $60 is ok for a price of a game if you can't wait. I bought Turok on ebay for $20 while it was still $60 on store shelves. Also I bought gears of war for $14 at the local pawn shop. And I think people are crazy who sell their games/systems at ebgames because they want $20 for a PS2 which they will sell it used for $80.
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Bah...gotta see Gamestop for what it is...a ridiculously genius business model. Create (and/or buy out) a market that was not there a decade ago, that gives all that money you spent on all those games and give u some sort of resale value where, other than pawn shops, there was none. Problem is that there is no real competition for them to give you more.
Not to mention, you think, "oh they give me NOTHING for my mint copy of Zelda: Twilight Princess" or whatever the case may be, when in actuality, they have 35 copies of that same game in the back that aren't selling as past as people are bringing them back in. Giving u 3/4 or 1/2 what u paid for that game is unrealistic and is not doing a very good job at protecting their investment and assuring themselves of making a profit of any kind.
Oh and PS2 fatboys and Xboxes are now $49.99 used from Gamestop....just for an update :P
And....for Will....If u have a laptop with wifi near your 360, you don't need the MS wifi adapter :P
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I'd rather not do that. I've done the laptop trick before but it's not very fun. lol the adapter I have, I got it for $30 off someone else so I'm not complaining. But one time I did go get one for $90
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hehehe...well it doesn't bother me much to do it the cheap way seeing as i have plenty of computers laying around here not doing anything anyways lol
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I think Sony rips everyone off, simple as that. yeah MS rips off a few companies here and there, hell even nintendo does. but nearly everything on any console made by sony is directly ripped off of someone else.
Nintendo made rumble controller technology what it is, sony mocked them then ripped it off, then when they were taken to court over it by some other company they tried to play it off like its a tech they dont need and is gimmicky and unimportant. nintendo made motion sensing controller technology what it is, sony mocked them saying it was nothing more than a stupid gimmick and then VERY POORLY ripped them off. MS made console HDDs what they are today and sony ripped them off.
before you say Im claiming these things were made by these companies, I realize they werent, but they were made popular and effective by them, and then blatantly ripped off by sony. Sony home...... yeah its miis+sims which = retarded
say what you want about the wii but I look at it like this, that system may have saved nintendos ass. It put them back in many peoples minds as what they are, the very best in the video game industry. when you think of video games, you should be thinking of nintendo, and you should thank nintendo as well. Personaly Id like to see nintendo buy sega. perhapse then we would see things that we want to see, like a decent sonic game for one.
other than that, Im sure sony will continue poorly ripping off everyone else to get ahaid, and hopefully they will die out of the video game entertainment market, Its wishfull thinking but it should happen for the good of all.
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Have you actually played playstation home? Now if you have and you think it's miis + sims thats fine, but I've been on for a few days now and I don't think your statement holds water.
And I'm glad sony copies other companies. Because I can buy one console and get all the good features. And, and this is the last and, sixaxis motion technology is quite a bit better than the wii remote. They haven't really implemented it yet, maybe they never will, and I don't really care if they do.
I've heard about a new add on to the wiimote to allow it to detect exactly where it is in space, that will make things a lot better, but if you really think wii remotes are all that, (I'm sure you know about this anyway) just try to bowl backwards.
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your such a fag, adam.
are you saying xbox controllers don't use rumble technology? and Microsoft doesn't want to get into the fucking motion sensing industry? do you think microsoft should have the only console with a fucking hard drive? does that even make sense? "Sony is totally ripping somebody off on account of making their game console support __________ and _________ features." which have been freely available on the PC for decades.
I've got a mouse with a gyroscope in it, and for the life of me I can't see the difference between working with that mouse and wiggling a wii mote. Your claims make it sound like companies are pioneering, when they are really just working off old tech.
What the hell is your definition of ripping off? Hard drives should be a standard. rumble support should be a standard. Mouse and keyboard support should a be standard. if a company has to redefine gaming in their own terms when they enter the market the ps3 gamers would be using some sort of mouse exercise wheel controller, and the xbox users would be humping the air with a hoola hoop controller or something, whilst nintendo would be using the gamepad because they made it popular first.
Nintendo sucks. Who the fuck plays the wii? I've got one collecting dust since brawl came out, and they sure as hell didn't use any motion sensing in that game. If I'm going to play the wii, its going to be virtual console games, which Nintendo totally ripped off of XBLA.
to sum: you don't seem to be making any sense. and you're supporting a console that gives kids tennis elbow.
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Actually, wasn't sony the first console to use dual analog sticks?
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In this day and age it is very important to have something that represents you in the video game world (Second Life, anyone?). That's just it. It was like this ... The Sims > Second Life > Mii's > Sony Home > 360 Avatars. They all realize how nice it is to have something that looks like you in the video game world. Apparently it's all good to copy off of other people and just change it up a bit. Home is taken to a really new level, I haven't seen much of it but I imagine that is a really nice addition, and probably one of the better takes on this. Everyone has their own interpretation of something else, and anyone can take anyone's ideas and make them better these days.
Honestly I don't see a problem with it. One day we won't even see these fictional characters on the screen anymore; they will actually just BE who we are.
I read this fictional story once about this video game system that could hear everything you were saying, and then change the game according to whatever you said, however you felt, almost whatever you thought. It would conform to whatever you were talking about, even when it was turned off. You liked the new skateboard but mom wouldn't let you have it? Don't worry, the video game system already had it in stock. You thought the game was too easy? Not the next time you play it ;) this is our future. How will all the other systems adapt to this? There is nothing wrong with innovation and creativity, every system has their own look with things. They're all different, and then similar. It's all about the games, and which ones are exclusives and then 3rd Party.
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I did say ALL the companies rip eachother off did I not, sony just does it more than everyone else, and the sixaxis shit, I played a few games that use it and its awful. Army of two for example, you use it when your on these hanglider things, and it doesnt dettect for shit, half the time it goes where I tell it, the other half Im ramming into the clifs going the complete oposite direction. so no it isnt even close to as good as wiimotes motion sensoring, maybe if it worked correctly it would be better.
another example is the hard drive, xbox had it used nearly perfectly. ever used an HDD on a non modded PS2, theres virtualy no use for it unless your playing that faggoty FFXI game. now the Ps3 uses it decently for the most part, except for requiring you to download huge files from certain games just to play, thats what a PC is for. atleast 360 gives you an option with the new update.
the sony home thing. I played with it some, and it seems like Sims with 3D Miis but without the fun part of sims, that being the actual making of a place to live.
Nintendo does not suck, nor has it ever sucked. I think your looking for sega, or sony. Sony didnt use analogue sticks at all untill they saw that nintendo 64 had something good going with its joystick.
OH and I forgot about an other thing, Sony Lies, constantly, and overcharges for everything. How did this intentional undersupplying to make more money thing get popular for console makers? Sony. Who started charging more for games first? Sony. Who started overcharging for controllers and other accessories first? Sony. Who has stated there systems would have more power and better specs than they actualy did with every new console? Sony. Who wants to rape your babies and eat your dogs? Sony.
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They are all good ideas being shared and made better, that's all.
You think Sony overcharges? MS does too, and on all levels! From new releases, to XBLA bs, to even these "Themes" and "Gamerpictures" that are only about 50kb to download are being charged over a dollar to download?! WTF
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1.sony just does it more than everyone else
2.now the Ps3 uses it decently for the most part, except for requiring you to download huge files from certain games just to play, thats what a PC is for. atleast 360 gives you an option with the new update.
3.Nintendo does not suck, nor has it ever sucked. I think your looking for sega, or sony. Sony didnt use analogue sticks at all untill they saw that nintendo 64 had something good going with its joystick.
4.Who started charging more for games first? Sony. Who started overcharging for controllers and other accessories first? Sony. Who has stated there systems would have more power and better specs than they actualy did with every new console? Sony.
1.I don't see any accounts where sony rips off anyone more then any other company, the xbox for instance has PC hardware entirely, the ps2 was a totally strange, unique bit of hardware.
2.Not every game requires you to install it, but some games like mgs 4 pretty much need to be installed on account of the huge amount of resources it has. Soul Calibur ran fine without installing, but ran awesome when it was installed. Who started installing games on to hard drives first? for a console, it was the ps2. there are a few games out there you can install including ff11. it was a native feature to the ps3 and MICROSOFT RIPPED IT OFF (not that I care, I think it should be a necessity)
3.Did nintendo release something good behind my back that I just don't know about? I've got a NES, SNES and Gameboy, I've owned a 64, and I love retro gaming, but they don't produce anything good nowadays. I think many people could agree their time is over. I guess you really like them kiddie games, adam.
4.dude, the NES contra game cost 60 something bucks when it was released. also PS2 games were cheap as hell, games were getting put into the greatest hits within a few months of their release, that was the cheapest time for gaming. also there are ps3 games out there for 20 bucks a pop.
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1.I don't see any accounts where sony rips off anyone more then any other company, the xbox for instance has PC hardware entirely, the ps2 was a totally strange, unique bit of hardware.
Xbox was made by a PC company, of course it was like that, nothing sony made did anything like the xbox.
The PS2 was a massive ripoff, even the gamecube was a better system than it. Sony lied about its specs, saying it would be multiple times more powerful than it actualy turned out.
2.Not every game requires you to install it, but some games like mgs 4 pretty much need to be installed on account of the huge amount of resources it has. Soul Calibur ran fine without installing, but ran awesome when it was installed. Who started installing games on to hard drives first? for a console, it was the ps2. there are a few games out there you can install including ff11. it was a native feature to the ps3 and MICROSOFT RIPPED IT OFF (not that I care, I think it should be a necessity)
NONE of the xbox 360 games require a download to the HDD, well except for a couple addons. take for example DMC4, the time it takes to download to the HDD on the PS3 does not come close to the time it takes to load the game the 5 or 6 times your actualy going to stick it in your drive. same goes for any game, there may be 1 or 2 games you will play enough to make the DL worth the wait, but for most I doubt even once. and MGS4 can be on the 360 and run good enough to not require any kind of major download. it should be optional 100 percent.
3.Did nintendo release something good behind my back that I just don't know about? I've got a NES, SNES and Gameboy, I've owned a 64, and I love retro gaming, but they don't produce anything good nowadays. I think many people could agree their time is over. I guess you really like them kiddie games, adam.
You need to lay off the pipe there buddy. There are more great games on the Wii than the 360 and PS3 combined times 2. Im not saying there arent shit games on the wii, but what I am saying is Wii has alot more games worth playing than 360 and PS3. just cause the only wii game you played in the last year or two was SSB doesnt mean its the only good one that has been released. Ive named the many great titles to be released on the wii before, and guarantee they are way more fun than Halo or Resistance, or GOW. just because they are kiddy games doesnt mean they arent fun as fuck. Ive played hella kiddie nintendo games that beat the shit out of call of duty 1,2,3,4,or world at war. lets not even get into the shitty ass games like halo or final fantasy "insert number"
4.dude, the NES contra game cost 60 something bucks when it was released. also PS2 games were cheap as hell, games were getting put into the greatest hits within a few months of their release, that was the cheapest time for gaming. also there are ps3 games out there for 20 bucks a pop.
Contra was made by whom? not nintendo Ill tell you that much. that era was also the one in which the most shit games were ever released. you think wii has alot of shit games, holy fuck look at PS2 and xbox, that was the golden age of ET competition. Ive played some shit ass games that were "Best sellers" on the PS2, the 007 games, need I say more? shit Mortal Kombat had best sellers and according to people like you those were some of the worst mortal kombat games there have been. I was at gamecrazy looking at PS3 games, I saw 3 non sports games under 25 dollars. sports games dont count no matter how good they are. BTW I consider sports games NFL, NBA, MLB. so yeah, lots of 20 dollar ps3 titles. OH and I was looking at both new and used. wasnt shit worth getting outside of that motocross game for 20. and they already had that so, useless. I got my cousin GTA4 for 35, which is a fair price.
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BTW I consider sports games NFL, NBA, MLB.
No NHL?
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2.Not every game requires you to install it, but some games like mgs 4 pretty much need to be installed on account of the huge amount of resources it has. Soul Calibur ran fine without installing, but ran awesome when it was installed. Who started installing games on to hard drives first? for a console, it was the ps2. there are a few games out there you can install including ff11. it was a native feature to the ps3 and MICROSOFT RIPPED IT OFF (not that I care, I think it should be a necessity)
release, that was the cheapest time for gaming. also there are ps3 games out there for 20 bucks a pop.
ok where did this idea of installing games on a console arise from?i think its just a waste of time, installing a game on a console when that space can be taken up by dlc or other stuff.isnt that the whole point of a console that it makes playing games easier by having no install times and by not bothering with what configs you need to run a particular game.wasnt MS trying to popularise the idea of games being played as soon as you put them in your disk drives. a
la-console.(yea like that was gonna work).but installing games on a console is just not done.
3. I think many people could agree their time is over. I guess you really like them kiddie games, adam.release, that was the cheapest time for gaming. also there are ps3 games out there for 20 bucks a pop.
fuck that shit. if that was really happening why is the wii still selling like hot cakes.i think ninty is the only company which is amassing the largest pile of cash of the lot, cause most people wanna play casual games.as for a good game on the wii,look out for the conduit.it looks nice.kinda like a mix of deus ex,hl etc etc.
btw i really hate sony for not bringing their games to the pc :P. (gow pc anyone)
dont worry i hate MS too ;D
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No NHL?
There is Golf too ya know ... and frisbee and hunting and swimming and skiing and cheerleading and ... oh I've said too much ;D
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Xbox was made by a PC company, of course it was like that, nothing sony made did anything like the xbox.
The PS2 was a massive ripoff, even the gamecube was a better system than it. Sony lied about its specs, saying it would be multiple times more powerful than it actualy turned out.
I don't see how this illegitimizes what I said, Microsoft didn't do anything special was my claim.
NONE of the xbox 360 games require a download to the HDD, well except for a couple addons. take for example DMC4, the time it takes to download to the HDD on the PS3 does not come close to the time it takes to load the game the 5 or 6 times your actualy going to stick it in your drive. same goes for any game, there may be 1 or 2 games you will play enough to make the DL worth the wait, but for most I doubt even once. and MGS4 can be on the 360 and run good enough to not require any kind of major download. it should be optional 100 percent.
First off, you put 5 gigs of game onto the hard drive when you install content of DMC4, so it takes a while, and how many times you play is going to be up to the user, with an 80gig hard drive, what does it matter if you leave the data on forever? Its not unreasonable for developers to want it this way either, reading off disk is error prone and more time consuming, I recall hearing stings about the core xbox systems saying its going to effect development what with them not even being able to cache. Also, what are you, a developer at konami? if they want to port it it will happen, they are in the game to make money like any other buisness, but I wouldn't want to deal with the loading times considering the loading off disk already takes its time, not to mention content spread across disks. Why would it be optional? its up to the developer, not the user, they would know whats best.
You need to lay off the pipe there buddy. There are more great games on the Wii than the 360 and PS3 combined times 2. Im not saying there arent shit games on the wii, but what I am saying is Wii has alot more games worth playing than 360 and PS3. just cause the only wii game you played in the last year or two was SSB doesnt mean its the only good one that has been released. Ive named the many great titles to be released on the wii before, and guarantee they are way more fun than Halo or Resistance, or GOW. just because they are kiddy games doesnt mean they arent fun as fuck. Ive played hella kiddie nintendo games that beat the shit out of call of duty 1,2,3,4,or world at war. lets not even get into the shitty ass games like halo or final fantasy "insert number"
I still don't know of any real good games on the wii. what games are you talking about? I have played plenty of games for it. the zelda game was OK. the soul calubur game was atrocious. driver was OK. wii sports and play were OK as far as I'm concerned. thats to name a few. I've not run into anything overwhelmingly good. so give me titles. I seriously don't know anyone playing their wii... (I googled the conduit, looks cool, but if it plays like red steel did, who cares lol)
Contra was made by whom? not nintendo Ill tell you that much. that era was also the one in which the most shit games were ever released. you think wii has alot of shit games, holy fuck look at PS2 and xbox, that was the golden age of ET competition. Ive played some shit ass games that were "Best sellers" on the PS2, the 007 games, need I say more? shit Mortal Kombat had best sellers and according to people like you those were some of the worst mortal kombat games there have been. I was at gamecrazy looking at PS3 games, I saw 3 non sports games under 25 dollars. sports games dont count no matter how good they are. BTW I consider sports games NFL, NBA, MLB. so yeah, lots of 20 dollar ps3 titles. OH and I was looking at both new and used. wasnt shit worth getting outside of that motocross game for 20. and they already had that so, useless. I got my cousin GTA4 for 35, which is a fair price.
Xbox (original) had some of the most expensive controllers at the time. You said "Who started charging more for games first?" Mario 3 aparently cost 50 bucks, try inflating that to show its current day value. The Snes had tons of shit games, so did the 64, and the gamecube had lots of shit games too. the xbox had a good amount of shit games... the ps2 had shit games... are you saying nothing that NINTENDO made themselves has ever been shit?
" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_published_by_Nintendo " here's a list of nintendo published games, there is plenty of crap titles on that list. Sure, every Mario game is going to have been tested too many times to be crappy, but they have also released go no where titles.
Also, I'm still not sure sony lied about how powerful the ps3 was going to be: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=B3W&q=ps3+powerful+scientific&btnG=Search
its all about how you utilize it, I'm sure a game will come out that needs insane calculations, especially with DMM technology coming out. its all speculation as of right now, but Fallout 3 ps3 looks and runs just fine, as does the 360 version.
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NONE of the xbox 360 games require a download to the HDD, well except for a couple addons. take for example DMC4, the time it takes to download to the HDD on the PS3 does not come close to the time it takes to load the game the 5 or 6 times your actualy going to stick it in your drive. same goes for any game, there may be 1 or 2 games you will play enough to make the DL worth the wait, but for most I doubt even once. and MGS4 can be on the 360 and run good enough to not require any kind of major download. it should be optional 100 percent.
Okay sure, let's pretend that it IS optional ... you'd complain about it taking too long to load said game! Ever since they allowed installing games to xb360 for example, everything has run more smoothly for me! I'm all for them installing games to hard drive ever since the Xbox was modded and you could play all your games off hard drive, you of all modded geeks on here should know this! Games run faster on HD than on DVD, that's just fact.
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I realize they load faster and theres less errors on the HD, but the time you waste installing it to the HDD is more than the amount of time you will waste waiting for a disc to load. If I had the ability to install my 360 games to the HDD, Id have 2 games on it, the rest I dont play enough for it to matter. Oh and after playing GTA4 on both ps3 and 360 side by side, I see zero difference on load times, and I had to save a large amount of shit to the HDD for the game.
50 dollars was the standard for a very long time for new games, except on portable systems.
Also I know nintendos made some shit ass titles before, and Id go as far as to say the Wii is the PS2 of this generation, it has the highest saturation of shit titles, but at the same time Nintendo makes up for it with there games. Metroid prime 3 dominated, mario insert name dominated, zelda kicked ass, oh and tell me why it is that MS and Sony wouldnt allow manhunt 2 on there systems for being to violent, and nintendo was fine with it?
oh just wait I can see it now, some company is gonna release a wii game where you throw stuff at bush. mostly shoes.
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I dunno man, I haven't played mario galaxy and a few others but the only wii games I really enjoyed were resident evil 4 and twilight princess. Twilight princess got kind of boring and repetitive and RE4 was just a port (albeit a very welcome one). I'm sure I have odd taste, for example I never cared for smash brothers whatsoever, but the only game I played for any longer than a week was wii sports, and that was only fun till I figured that you didn't actually have to swing the remote, you just had to basically shake it.
I'm not happy with a lot of current gen games. I'm totally bored of GTAIV, I beat MGS4 in about a week and haven't played it since, I used to have a 360 and the only game I played very much was oblivion. So I've had all the current gen systems, and although I like ps3 the best, I'm not over the top pleased with anything. I really miss the PS2 glory days.
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metroid prime 3 was pretty dope, just didn't feel like playing it twice.
by the way, Little Big Planet is an amazing platformer! I really need to get a ps3 because of it, MGS4 was alright cos I played it through whilst borrowing the console, but Little big planet is a game I could play over a billion times + user creation is awesome, so if any of y'all haven't tried it yet, do so :D
why aren't you ever on our chan, sir?
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The sacrifice of stupid time given to install the game to HD is worth the time saved later on just for playing a game, fool! ;D
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its worth the time if you play it more than a handfull of times. if you play through it and beat it and never touch it again, its a waist of time. even games like COD4 and WaW I might play all the way through twice and Im done with it, now as I said Id gladly rip UT2004 to the HDD if it were on a console. I know UC is on the box but it isnt the same. and an 80 gig hd would hold 11 360 games. thats not a terribly huge amount considering ive over 50.
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I rent games and install them to the HD just for good measure. And for any used games that have scratches, this just helps with those kinda problems all the better! :D
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why aren't you ever on our chan, sir?
I just don't talk online much, the few times I tried the segahub irc nobody really talked at all.
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All you gotta do is say hi! We all have our moments. I'm usually the most responsive of us all when I'm on! :D
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lol, I'm on as much as I can be :)
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My two cents:
Microsoft:
Great job getting software companies to bite. Greater job still getting JAPANESE software companies to bite. If you would have told me 4 years ago that the Microsoft XBOX 360 would be the home to 90% of the standard PlayStation-esque stable of Japanese RPGs, I would have laughed and then punched you. Hardware still sucks, though. I have never had another piece of machinery that I dreaded it dying every time I powered it on, and that's not a good thing.
Sony:
Incredible hardware. TOTAL lack of software. And PS Home is a fucking joke with a hell of a lot of potential, but a fucking joke nonetheless.
Nintendo:
The nerdy kid who became metro-cool and snubbed all his old friends in favor of his new ones. Fucking assholes.
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Nintendo:
The nerdy kid who became metro-cool and snubbed all his old friends in favor of his new ones. Fucking assholes.
Not a bad analogy... Think I might steal that. :D
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That's exactly who Nintendo has become - that one kid that went to visit a cousin in a posh city one summer and came back to school as the coolest kid around. Now he can't be troubled to play D&D with his old friends, he's too busy listening to Saosin and Atreyu and hooking up with chicks that don't care what gets stuck inside of them, just as long as it moves fast.
Oh, and he's also been flirting with all of our mothers lately. Son of a bitch.
The 360 is nothing more than a hardcore nerd machine with a wannabe Wii candy-coating. However, the Netflix support is radbadical, and Live remains the greatest online option to date. $50 a year for a service that I haven't gotten a dropped game in over a year, I'm sure...yeah, that's worth that much at the very least.
The PS3 is that goofy rich kid who thinks he's the next David Blaine. "Look at how cool my tricks are: now I'm movies, now I'm a computer, now I'm Second Life..." I just said, "Look, now I'm bored...when is God Of War coming out again?" That's the one thing that the entire console war hinges on: software availability.
Check it:
Nintendo has the lock on the whole "interactivity" tip, and has the stupid-assed mass market on lock. They can take a shit all over that system, spray paint the arid feces bright, shiny gold and millions of people will flock to it and taste it and claim that it's the greatest thing they've ever seen/heard/done/experienced. That's where they are.
Sony lost almost all of their much-needed software support through making a "future-proof" system...I guess someone didn't tell them that by "future-proofing" the system, you "present-proof" the shit out of it as well. It's made from the tears of Japanese space leprechauns. And nobody but Sony has the knowhow to program that shit, nor the devkits made completely out of ground up and reshaped unicorn horns. Look it up, I swear it's true. (It's not.)
Microsoft...well, MS just did what they do best. Rob the shit out of your competitors and improve on their already impressive work. The 360 Avatars may be gay, but they're making the Mii's look godawful by comparison. No Blu-Ray? HD-DVD dead? No prob - HD movie streaming courtesy of Netflix. Oh, and the biggest, baddest crime of all: robbing the shit out of Sony's Rolodex of software developers. No J-RPG games on a Japanese system? I'd never had guessed it...but here we are.
Tell me I'm not on to something, never mind just plain right.
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wow..........
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That's exactly who Nintendo has become - that one kid that went to visit a cousin in a posh city one summer and came back to school as the coolest kid around. Now he can't be troubled to play D&D with his old friends, he's too busy listening to Saosin and Atreyu and hooking up with chicks that don't care what gets stuck inside of them, just as long as it moves fast.
Oh, and he's also been flirting with all of our mothers lately. Son of a bitch.
The 360 is nothing more than a hardcore nerd machine with a wannabe Wii candy-coating. However, the Netflix support is radbadical, and Live remains the greatest online option to date. $50 a year for a service that I haven't gotten a dropped game in over a year, I'm sure...yeah, that's worth that much at the very least.
The PS3 is that goofy rich kid who thinks he's the next David Blaine. "Look at how cool my tricks are: now I'm movies, now I'm a computer, now I'm Second Life..." I just said, "Look, now I'm bored...when is God Of War coming out again?" That's the one thing that the entire console war hinges on: software availability.
Check it:
Nintendo has the lock on the whole "interactivity" tip, and has the stupid-assed mass market on lock. They can take a shit all over that system, spray paint the arid feces bright, shiny gold and millions of people will flock to it and taste it and claim that it's the greatest thing they've ever seen/heard/done/experienced. That's where they are.
Sony lost almost all of their much-needed software support through making a "future-proof" system...I guess someone didn't tell them that by "future-proofing" the system, you "present-proof" the shit out of it as well. It's made from the tears of Japanese space leprechauns. And nobody but Sony has the knowhow to program that shit, nor the devkits made completely out of ground up and reshaped unicorn horns. Look it up, I swear it's true. (It's not.)
Microsoft...well, MS just did what they do best. Rob the shit out of your competitors and improve on their already impressive work. The 360 Avatars may be gay, but they're making the Mii's look godawful by comparison. No Blu-Ray? HD-DVD dead? No prob - HD movie streaming courtesy of Netflix. Oh, and the biggest, baddest crime of all: robbing the shit out of Sony's Rolodex of software developers. No J-RPG games on a Japanese system? I'd never had guessed it...but here we are.
Tell me I'm not on to something, never mind just plain right.
no sane person listens to atreyu.
Thank god sony is getting raped, there only getting what they deserve.
nintendo fans are starting to remind me of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Gzq-QEt0s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Gzq-QEt0s)
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That was great, I believed it was real for the first half lol.
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Well a console that claims to do everything is just asking for an ass whoopin by the feds. The problem is how they just jumped into the competition claiming over $600-$800 or something for their consoles. I know inflation is crazy and the economy is bad but WHAT THE FUCK!
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The problem lies in too much "future" technology for the present to handle, whether in a case of price point or programming difficulty, and so all they have accomplished is shooting themselves in the foot. That's why the 360 is so cheap - standard DVDs, PC architecture, technology that's a little ahead of its time but not far beyond tomorrow - so yeah, 3 years later you can cop one with no storage solution for $200. Cheaper than a Wii, which is technologically inferior in every respect and yet sells for $250 still because Nintendo has no reason to drop price when every stupid in the universe will gladly shell out that amount of money just to say they have one. That alone is a fleeting feeling of excitement, because I have a Wii and have had it since launch - and I haven't turned the motherfucker on in over 6 months. Granted, the PS3 is a beast of a machine, with the best internet browser I've ever seen on a console, media hub functionality, switchable HDD, ability to run Linux, full Bluetooth compatibility, the list goes on. But does it have the software to make itself stand out? No. And people will swear up and down that the PS3 looks better graphically - which is a flat-out lie perpetuated by people who think that they know better. The PS3 and 360 look almost IDENTICAL performance-wise, and the only thing I've ever noticed is that the 360 will push 1080p graphics in almost every game that hits that system while the PS3 maxes out at 720p most of the time. It's a strange thing to see, especially coming from the company who said that the "HD revolution doesn't begin until we say so."
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I don't think any of us are HD-ready ... :( lol
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I play in 1080i. I don't have the scratch for a 1080p set just yet, but it'll happen soon. Probably after the summer, after I change houses and get new furniture to put in that new house. Then I shall be uber-ballin'.
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I haves a 1080 p tv, but its a rear projection tv, fuck all that, ill stick with my 1080 i CRT. it dominates.
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CRT ftw. :D
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CRT fucking RULES!